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I have seen some pics of guitars with bindings the same wood as B/S with a laminate to separate the two. Do you use stock bindings of B/S wood or do you cut binding from area next to cut made to size side to approx domensions ie contiguous wood used for binding.
Would love to see pics for ideas.
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Bob, I don't have any pics but or have done it yet, but I would think that using off cuts (top and bottom) of the side wood would look very cool. It would be like you routed a little groove for the side purfling line with continual grain pattern from the side to the binding.

I seem to recall that Mario trys to do this when he uses the same binding material as side wood. I'm sure that other's do this as well, I just havn't been made aware yet

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Ive done that on a couple of guitars, the most fun one was an archtop where I tried to match the pattern of the flames too... fun but a little scary. On that guitar it was easy, since there isnt any curve on the rim, but I think it would be close to impossible to do it like that(flamed maple) on a flattop. Ive done one flattop with it so far, but that was really dark braz, so you cant really tell...








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Here is one I did a while back in EIR. I used offcuts from the sides to try and match the grain. It's a bit tougher to do than you would think. It was a lot of fun and I plan to do more like this. In fact have one on the bench now. BTW that's a single black purfling line between the sides and bindings.

Don't mind the dust this one's been hanging on the wall for a while.





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If you have a slitting blade like the Stew-Mac circular fret slotting saw, (Or the slotting blade that Shane sells) You can use it to slice off your bindings. If you make a zero clearance insert, these blades will leave a glue ready finish & the kerf waste is minimal.
Because these blades have no set, you have to clean them pretty regularly or they'll smoke & heat up.


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Not to steal traffic to another forum, but check out the mahogany parlor by Tyko Runesson over on mimf, it's in the Flat Top section. Maybe I'm not seeing it clearly enough in the pics, but I'm pretty sure the bindings are the same as the back and side with no purfling in between. It's a really nice understated look, I keep going back to look at it.

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Wow, Lars, another impressive shot. That archtop's binding and sides looks like an identical match.
Sometimes I've found that there just isn't enough wood left on the side pieces to get four (or more?) pieces of binding. And on a couple of these, I've used something just a little "off" to act as a subtle contrast.
I'm not certain if this is what you are looking to see, but it might help to firm up your opinions if you DON'T like the look.

As I said, there wasn't enough wood left to get 4 binding strips, a center seam, and also fretboard bindings from these sides. So I went for a "white-on-white" look. Or in this case, Koa on Koa:



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Wow Lars and Steve.

Lars your guitars always blow me away, And Steve! I'm almost embarrased for showing pics of mine. Those look fantastic!


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Lars and Steve,

What Paul said, minus any negative that may have been suggested by him toward his own superb effort. Well done guys, these examples along with Paul's Tassi Blackwood, Tiger Myrtle bound beauty are fine representations of classy guitar porn.

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By all means, let me third this motion!

Awesome work guys, awesome!


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Great info & pics!
Hesh, let's see yours, and more pics from everyone. Love to see the bindings and also am able to see more great guitars.
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Well thanks, fellas!
I should add that the Koa in that pic above was courtesy of Volcano Guitar Works. Have always gotten superb Koa from Doug and Co.

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More pics please


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Wow, You guys are killing me!
That is a great look on all these guitars!
That's an option I had not thought of.
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